1 00:00:01,890 --> 00:00:02,990 Hidden power. 2 00:00:03,630 --> 00:00:05,410 Secrets. Cover -ups. 3 00:00:06,010 --> 00:00:07,010 Corruption. 4 00:00:09,830 --> 00:00:12,070 You think you know the whole story? 5 00:00:12,390 --> 00:00:13,470 Think again. 6 00:00:15,530 --> 00:00:16,870 I've been governor. 7 00:00:17,430 --> 00:00:19,030 A Navy SEAL. 8 00:00:20,150 --> 00:00:21,270 A fighter. 9 00:00:22,190 --> 00:00:27,930 I've heard things that'll blow your mind. And now I think it's time you get 10 00:00:27,930 --> 00:00:28,930 whole story. 11 00:00:30,580 --> 00:00:36,440 Now, the 9 -11 conspiracy that was lost in the smoke from the trade towers. 12 00:00:37,060 --> 00:00:39,060 The attack on the Pentagon. 13 00:00:40,820 --> 00:00:45,200 Was the U .S. military headquarters really hit by a hijacked jetliner? 14 00:00:45,780 --> 00:00:48,980 Or was the damage caused by something else? 15 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:53,200 An airplane causing that kind of damage is just nonsensical. 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,240 We should not accept such an explanation. 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,500 Jesse Ventura uncovers the clues from the debris outside the Pentagon. 18 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:08,360 I didn't see any tail. I didn't see any seats. And I saw nothing that resembled 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,360 an aircraft. 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,260 To the survivors inside the Pentagon. 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,940 Did you at all see an airplane? 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,600 I didn't. To me, it sounded like a bomb. 23 00:01:19,020 --> 00:01:23,300 White hot issues. The mainstream news media won't dare touch. 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,580 We have many pilots speaking out, and our media just ignores them. 25 00:01:30,340 --> 00:01:31,900 Censored surveillance footage. 26 00:01:32,260 --> 00:01:35,240 The tapes were confiscated immediately by the FBI. 27 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,340 Phantom phone calls from the jet. 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,080 Right now, sir. My plane has been hijacked. What should I do? 29 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:50,460 And shocking allegations. The attack was staged to hide a massive Defense 30 00:01:50,460 --> 00:01:52,020 Department money scam. 31 00:01:53,020 --> 00:01:56,720 We cannot track $2 .3 trillion in transactions. 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:04,040 And amazingly, that exact place that quote plane hit was where all the 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,860 were stored for what Rumsfeld talked about. 34 00:02:09,139 --> 00:02:11,560 Jesse Ventura storms the Pentagon. 35 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,560 He confronts the 9 -11 Commission. 36 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,680 I think the Commission was duped. 37 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:21,720 Missiles. Bombs. 38 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,040 Cover -ups. 39 00:02:25,340 --> 00:02:28,500 The 9 -11 Pentagon Conspiracy. 40 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,080 I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is Conspiracy Theory. 41 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:42,840 Jesse Ventura is inside the Pentagon, one of the most secure buildings in the 42 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:49,380 world. And on September 11, 2001, the target of a terrorist attack. 43 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,080 Or was it? 44 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,500 The governor is here to dispute the 9 -11 Commission's official version of 45 00:02:58,500 --> 00:03:05,160 events and investigate allegations of an inside job. 46 00:03:07,780 --> 00:03:11,820 And when he doesn't get what he's looking for, he goes straight to the 9 47 00:03:11,820 --> 00:03:12,880 Commission's counsel. 48 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,960 Okay, so, Governor, you've asked me a lot of questions that indicate that You 49 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,640 not really believe that 9 -11 happened the way it did. 50 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:28,580 So what exactly is your bottom line and where are you going with this? My bottom 51 00:03:28,580 --> 00:03:29,580 line is the truth. 52 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,560 After all these years, there are still a lot of questions about the 9 -11 53 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,340 attacks that haven't even been asked. 54 00:03:43,220 --> 00:03:45,240 Especially when it comes to the Pentagon. 55 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,760 That's why I followed up on a call from a guy named Charles Lewis. 56 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,000 On September the 11th, he was an inspector for the Los Angeles Building 57 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,800 Safety Department, fresh off a bunch of construction jobs at the L .A. 58 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:05,880 International Airport. 59 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:13,920 And what he witnessed at the airport that morning was more than enough reason 60 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:14,920 get on the case. 61 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,420 Charlie, let's get right to it. 62 00:04:19,820 --> 00:04:24,720 Give me your story. What happened to you on September the 11th of 2001? 63 00:04:25,300 --> 00:04:29,420 On that morning, there was quite a bit of activity going on there, and I was 64 00:04:29,420 --> 00:04:33,380 able to hear a great deal of what was being said. I discovered that they were 65 00:04:33,380 --> 00:04:35,900 aware that LAX was one of the targets. 66 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:42,740 They seemed to be very upset that of all the air traffic controllers watching 67 00:04:42,740 --> 00:04:46,480 those planes, no one had bothered to notify NORAD. 68 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,660 NORAD. The North American Aerospace Defense Command. 69 00:04:51,940 --> 00:04:54,460 It's the nation's air defense system. 70 00:04:55,740 --> 00:05:01,560 And the word came back that NORAD had indeed been notified, but they were 71 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,820 ordered to stand down. 72 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:07,100 NORAD had been ordered to stand down. Yes. 73 00:05:08,340 --> 00:05:09,440 Stand down. 74 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,920 That means our air defense system was ordered not to send up fighter jets. 75 00:05:16,460 --> 00:05:19,440 to intercept the hijacked planes that were on the loose. 76 00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:24,280 Who gave the order for NORAD to stand down? 77 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,420 The word came back that the order had come from the highest level of the White 78 00:05:28,420 --> 00:05:29,420 House. 79 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:35,300 It couldn't have been George W. Bush who gave the order. We all know he was in 80 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:38,100 Florida reading the pet goat to a bunch of school kids. 81 00:05:38,900 --> 00:05:43,920 It could only be one man, the Vice President, Dick Cheney. 82 00:05:44,940 --> 00:05:46,980 I guess they figured they had to follow orders. 83 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,060 But Charles Lewis' story doesn't end there. 84 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:57,440 After he got the stand -down information, he heard something else on 85 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,000 -level police radio frequency. 86 00:05:59,940 --> 00:06:06,340 The Pentagon had been hit, but not by American Airlines Flight 77. 87 00:06:08,420 --> 00:06:11,640 They said that a missile had hit the Pentagon. 88 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,100 Clearly they said a missile had hit the Pentagon. 89 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,740 Not an airplane, but a missile. A missile. 90 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,940 I was very surprised by the time that I got home and got the television on that 91 00:06:22,940 --> 00:06:27,280 it had somehow mysteriously changed from a missile to an airplane. 92 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:28,960 A missile? 93 00:06:29,420 --> 00:06:30,740 A stand down? 94 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,700 There were a lot of rumors and hysteria that day. But this guy was in on 95 00:06:36,700 --> 00:06:37,940 official transmission. 96 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,780 And he said there was even more evidence. 97 00:06:42,860 --> 00:06:48,000 It was high time we looked into this and find out what the government might be 98 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,000 hiding. 99 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:55,820 The 9 -11 Commission says Flight 77 took off from Dulles Airport outside of 100 00:06:55,820 --> 00:07:00,820 Washington shortly after the other two planes had already left, the two that 101 00:07:00,820 --> 00:07:01,820 the tower. 102 00:07:01,870 --> 00:07:07,970 Then it says it turned around and struck the Pentagon at 9 .37 a .m. Right. Now, 103 00:07:08,010 --> 00:07:11,210 that makes sense from the hijacker's point of view, that they left right 104 00:07:11,210 --> 00:07:15,030 those other two planes left, because then the crew from Flight 77 wouldn't 105 00:07:15,030 --> 00:07:18,530 word of the New York attacks in time to stop this new wave of attacks. 106 00:07:18,910 --> 00:07:24,230 But that isn't what our informant's telling us. This informant told me that 107 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:27,330 heard radio traffic that talked about a missile. 108 00:07:27,650 --> 00:07:28,650 Wow. 109 00:07:29,290 --> 00:07:30,290 That's insane. 110 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,120 Well, there's a lot of stuff that doesn't add up. As crazy and wild as 111 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,100 sounds, I still think we ought to check it out. 112 00:07:40,540 --> 00:07:45,100 There was a lot of evidence and a lot of clues that might help solve the 113 00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:49,960 mystery. Me and my investigators were going to fan out and hit them all. 114 00:07:53,380 --> 00:07:57,460 Coming up, a jet, a missile, or a bomb. 115 00:07:58,860 --> 00:08:03,200 Exclusive FBI video blasts holes in the official story. 116 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,440 The nose of an airplane causing that kind of damage is just nonsensical. 117 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,340 It doesn't make any sense. 118 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:17,220 Our plane has been hijacked. Then, a shocking explanation for the phone calls 119 00:08:17,220 --> 00:08:19,420 that allegedly came from the doomed plane. 120 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,720 I'll show you. 121 00:08:22,300 --> 00:08:27,120 a voice more. Just to be able to take a voice and just change it into another 122 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,120 voice. 123 00:08:29,700 --> 00:08:36,640 And later, Jesse Ventura storms a Pentagon official's office 124 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,760 and demands answers for you. 125 00:08:40,020 --> 00:08:43,659 I still question why we can't see all the security cameras. 126 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,300 Conspiracy theories have only grown in the years since the 9 -11 attacks. 127 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,020 Most of the focus has been on the destruction of the World Trade Tower. 128 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,300 The lesser known story is what really happened at the Pentagon. 129 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,740 Jesse Ventura and his team are out to find evidence of the truths that have 130 00:09:17,740 --> 00:09:18,740 withheld. 131 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,040 I got boots on the ground in Washington. 132 00:09:25,939 --> 00:09:30,340 June was across the Potomac meeting a 9 -11 conspiracy expert. 133 00:09:30,940 --> 00:09:34,260 Matt Sullivan laid out the first evidence of a conspiracy. 134 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,840 Did someone stop fighter jets from intercepting the hijacked airliner? 135 00:09:40,420 --> 00:09:45,860 So do you think there could have been a stand down? Well, you know, we get that 136 00:09:45,860 --> 00:09:47,120 from the Mineta testimony. 137 00:09:47,660 --> 00:09:51,920 Norman Mineta was the transportation secretary at the time of 9 -11. And he 138 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,240 testified in front of the 9 -11. 139 00:09:54,770 --> 00:09:56,790 May 23rd, 2003. 140 00:09:58,430 --> 00:10:02,590 Mineta said he was in the White House underground bunker with Vice President 141 00:10:02,590 --> 00:10:07,350 Dick Cheney while Flight 77 was speeding toward the Pentagon. 142 00:10:07,930 --> 00:10:12,630 There was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, the plane 143 00:10:12,630 --> 00:10:15,870 is 50 miles out, the plane is 30 miles out. 144 00:10:16,290 --> 00:10:21,430 And when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to 145 00:10:21,430 --> 00:10:24,070 the Vice President, Do the orders still stand? 146 00:10:25,290 --> 00:10:31,590 And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, of 147 00:10:31,590 --> 00:10:32,590 the orders still stand. 148 00:10:33,970 --> 00:10:38,370 If Annetta's testimony is correct, that the plane was the one going into the 149 00:10:38,370 --> 00:10:41,790 Pentagon, then clearly it must have been an order not to shoot the plane down 150 00:10:41,790 --> 00:10:43,070 because the plane wasn't shot down. 151 00:10:43,390 --> 00:10:47,230 So did Manessa's testimony ever make it to the 9 -11 commission report? 152 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,100 No, his testimony never appears in the printed report. 153 00:10:51,380 --> 00:10:56,500 But even more interesting, it's been excised from the video record of the 9 154 00:10:56,500 --> 00:10:58,140 Commission. Whoa. 155 00:10:58,860 --> 00:11:05,200 The 9 -11 Commission slapped a gag on the Transportation Secretary for not 156 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,700 towing the party line? 157 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:11,140 And why didn't the military stop the hijacked jet? 158 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,880 Matt Sullivan says the evidence at the scene begins to answer that question. 159 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,100 Maybe a jet never hit the Pentagon at all. 160 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,560 We know something happened at the Pentagon, but we don't know that a plane 161 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:25,560 crashed into it. 162 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,820 There's no big sections, there's no tail sections, there's no fuselage. 163 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,680 It wasn't a jet. 164 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,980 My investigator Daniel was getting the same story from Dwayne Dietz. 165 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,580 Dietz used to be an engineer with NASA. 166 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:51,620 He demonstrated how the damage at the Pentagon just doesn't add up to a 757. 167 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:59,840 You would expect a twin -engine transport airplane like the 757, you 168 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,440 notice the two engine holes. 169 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,280 That would be very prominent from all aircraft accidents that we know of. 170 00:12:07,420 --> 00:12:12,000 Whereas we didn't see two obvious engine holes in the front. 171 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,000 But if I can go... 172 00:12:15,230 --> 00:12:18,730 To the other end, you can see the damage path, and it comes to a point there. 173 00:12:18,850 --> 00:12:22,050 Yeah. The point on what's called the C -ring of the Pentagon. 174 00:12:22,930 --> 00:12:29,830 At that point, where you would expect the nose of the airplane to be totally 175 00:12:29,830 --> 00:12:36,230 disintegrated, it looks like a very extremely strong and impenetrable item 176 00:12:36,230 --> 00:12:38,370 struck it and just blew up the hole. 177 00:12:38,630 --> 00:12:39,830 It doesn't make any sense. 178 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:43,090 It would have been broken up by that point, or it would have vaporized by 179 00:12:43,130 --> 00:12:43,839 That's right. 180 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,580 Transport airplanes have got material that is not strong at all in the nose 181 00:12:48,580 --> 00:12:54,240 area. The nose of an airplane going through all that material and then 182 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,680 that kind of damage is just nonsensical. 183 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:04,120 So if there's a question about what did or didn't hit the Pentagon, why not go 184 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,140 to the videotape? 185 00:13:06,860 --> 00:13:11,020 Every inch outside the Pentagon is covered by security cameras. 186 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:19,100 An FBI report indicated at least 85 cameras were up and working that 187 00:13:20,140 --> 00:13:24,040 Yeah, there were a lot of cameras around the Pentagon. If you look at the 188 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,360 Pentagon, you can see that there's cameras on each corner. 189 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:30,740 There's cameras at some of the businesses around the Pentagon. 190 00:13:30,980 --> 00:13:35,020 And we know in those cases, the tapes were confiscated immediately by the FBI 191 00:13:35,020 --> 00:13:36,380 within hours of the event. 192 00:13:37,420 --> 00:13:40,200 It took five years of lawsuits. 193 00:13:40,910 --> 00:13:45,150 to force the Defense Department to release just three minutes of footage. 194 00:13:46,350 --> 00:13:49,850 And it all came down to five frames. 195 00:13:52,910 --> 00:13:54,530 Notice anything strange? 196 00:13:55,890 --> 00:14:01,650 No video or photos have ever shown an airliner approaching or hitting the 197 00:14:01,650 --> 00:14:02,650 building. 198 00:14:03,330 --> 00:14:07,970 This is what I think happened, a line in towards the Pentagon. I think it 199 00:14:07,970 --> 00:14:10,110 actually pulled up a little bit. 200 00:14:10,510 --> 00:14:12,590 There was a big explosion that we all saw. 201 00:14:12,850 --> 00:14:14,350 And then what happened to the plane? 202 00:14:14,890 --> 00:14:19,790 Well, it continued on somewhere behind this big cloud of black smoke. 203 00:14:20,650 --> 00:14:25,050 Dietz is saying the jetliner flew just above this camera's view. 204 00:14:26,510 --> 00:14:28,370 It never hit the Pentagon. 205 00:14:28,950 --> 00:14:31,290 Something else caused the explosion. 206 00:14:33,410 --> 00:14:36,350 And there's another problem with the official story. 207 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:43,280 The terrorists didn't have the expertise to fly a high -speed jet into such a 208 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,280 low structure. 209 00:14:45,180 --> 00:14:48,700 So said former Air Force pilot Rob Balsamo. 210 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:54,860 I met him at a small airport in Virginia where the alleged hijacked pilot, Hani 211 00:14:54,860 --> 00:14:57,080 Hanjour, took flying lessons. 212 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:04,300 For Hani Hanjour to have this aircraft going 150 knots over its max operating 213 00:15:04,300 --> 00:15:05,580 limit is just... 214 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,260 This is just incredible speeds for the aircraft. 215 00:15:08,700 --> 00:15:13,940 The vertical speeds are too great to be level across the lawn. 216 00:15:15,140 --> 00:15:19,020 The alleged pilot and the jet couldn't do it? 217 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,160 We were going to have to put this one to the test. 218 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:30,900 Coming up, inside the flight simulator, proof that no one could have steered 219 00:15:30,900 --> 00:15:33,020 Flight 77 into the Pentagon. 220 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,160 Oh, God. 221 00:15:35,630 --> 00:15:36,750 440 knots. 222 00:15:38,750 --> 00:15:45,310 Then, was this an inside job by our own Defense 223 00:15:45,310 --> 00:15:49,110 Department? Jesse Ventura follows the money. 224 00:15:49,550 --> 00:15:56,190 The day before 9 -11, Donald Rumsfeld talks about they can't account for $2 225 00:15:56,190 --> 00:16:00,230 .3 trillion of Pentagon expenses. 226 00:16:00,630 --> 00:16:01,790 And later. 227 00:16:02,750 --> 00:16:06,730 Shocking evidence that phone calls from the doomed jet were faked. 228 00:16:07,050 --> 00:16:10,670 He may have been duped by someone pretending to be his wife. 229 00:16:21,090 --> 00:16:27,450 American Airlines Flight 77 left Washington Dulles Airport for Los 230 00:16:27,450 --> 00:16:30,410 .20 a .m. on September 11, 2001. 231 00:16:32,740 --> 00:16:38,940 The Boeing 757 held 58 passengers, four flight attendants, and two pilots. 232 00:16:40,260 --> 00:16:43,820 It veered off course at 8 .40 a .m. 233 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:50,680 Its transponder, which identifies the jet on radar, shut off at 8 .56. 234 00:16:54,220 --> 00:16:59,860 The National Transportation Safety Board says the jet hit the Pentagon at 9 .37 235 00:16:59,860 --> 00:17:01,840 .45 a .m. 236 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,599 But was it even possible for an inexperienced pilot to pull off the 237 00:17:09,980 --> 00:17:15,020 Jesse Ventura learns more about the aircraft and the alleged hijacker from 238 00:17:15,020 --> 00:17:16,020 Rob Balsamo. 239 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,960 Now we're at the airport where Hani Hanjour supposedly tried to rent an 240 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,640 similar to this one. This one here. 241 00:17:25,020 --> 00:17:29,200 Exactly. They refused to rent them 172 because he couldn't control it. That's 242 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,200 unheard of. 243 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,080 Now let me ask you this. 244 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,420 You as a professional pilot. 245 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:42,680 How much more difficult is it to fly a Cessna 172 or a 757 246 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,320 or 767 Boeing jet? 247 00:17:45,540 --> 00:17:49,080 Oh, well, first of all, it's night and day when you look at the cockpit 248 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,080 to each other. 249 00:17:50,180 --> 00:17:52,960 Honey Hondor could not control a 757. 250 00:17:55,360 --> 00:18:00,000 Investigator Daniel Kukin is at another airport to meet Captain Rusty Amer. 251 00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:05,720 They'll use a flight simulator to replicate the jet's path to destruction. 252 00:18:06,220 --> 00:18:07,460 Or will they? 253 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:13,240 So I've flown a tiny bit in the very small planes. Okay, good. So your 254 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,920 experience is somewhat similar to the alleged hijackers. 255 00:18:19,020 --> 00:18:24,820 From what we know, they even had problems in a small airplane at the 256 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,240 maybe 120 knots. 257 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,060 You're going to speed this up to 500 knots. 258 00:18:30,750 --> 00:18:31,750 Physics don't allow it. 259 00:18:32,490 --> 00:18:38,010 At those speeds, the wings have departed a long time ago. The surfaces will just 260 00:18:38,010 --> 00:18:43,050 ripple. 500 knots is way too much. The airplane is not designed for that. 261 00:18:46,510 --> 00:18:51,550 The problem with controlling the aircraft on 9 -11 is the fact that the 262 00:18:51,550 --> 00:18:56,130 was doing 110 knots over its max operating limit. 263 00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:59,970 That's why we have so many pilots speaking out, and they're raising their 264 00:18:59,970 --> 00:19:00,970 flags. 265 00:19:02,170 --> 00:19:07,730 Meanwhile, Daniel was at the controls in that 757 flight simulate. 266 00:19:08,930 --> 00:19:12,270 He had as good a chance as anybody of hitting the target. 267 00:19:13,670 --> 00:19:15,550 Okay, you're 311 knots. 268 00:19:15,910 --> 00:19:18,730 You want to go all the way around? Yeah, because I've got to get back towards 269 00:19:18,730 --> 00:19:19,529 the city here. 270 00:19:19,530 --> 00:19:20,990 You can feel it right now. 271 00:19:21,310 --> 00:19:23,130 Yeah. All right. 272 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,680 Go for it. Go towards it. I'm going to increase your speed to your 360 knots. 273 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,300 There we go. Your 424 knots. 274 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,900 And, again, your radius of turn is becoming so great. 275 00:19:35,460 --> 00:19:37,980 Yeah. Keep it turning. Keep it turning. 276 00:19:38,180 --> 00:19:39,180 Keep it turning. 277 00:19:39,740 --> 00:19:40,740 Keep it turning. 278 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:41,960 Now go down. 279 00:19:42,300 --> 00:19:43,660 Dive for it. Yeah. 280 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,440 There's 500 knots. 281 00:19:46,660 --> 00:19:47,619 Keep it going. 282 00:19:47,620 --> 00:19:48,680 It's very touchy. 283 00:19:48,940 --> 00:19:50,860 I can understand. Now you're going on your back. 284 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,260 You're going on your back. Keep it rolling. Keep it rolling. 285 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,080 You hit something, but obviously it was not that building. 286 00:20:01,220 --> 00:20:07,300 So it's your professional opinion that Hanji could not fly that 287 00:20:07,300 --> 00:20:12,400 757 the way the government told us he did? Well, it's not even just 288 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,280 opinion. It's based on facts and data. 289 00:20:15,580 --> 00:20:16,580 Let's pass that. 290 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,180 Oh, come on. Hang on. I'm going to get him. I'm going to get him. 291 00:20:26,340 --> 00:20:27,340 440 knots. 292 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,480 I missed again. 293 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,360 There's no denying, it's incredibly difficult. 294 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,820 Especially with that turn that the NTSB data set, Flight 77 made. 295 00:20:40,300 --> 00:20:43,440 And then he levels off and then pretty much just guns it straight in. That 296 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,560 straight path right in is really incredibly difficult. 297 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:47,800 Correct. Correct. 298 00:20:48,060 --> 00:20:49,060 So what do you think? 299 00:20:49,710 --> 00:20:50,710 I couldn't do it. 300 00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:55,230 You couldn't do it. Not at that speed. Not at 500 knots. 301 00:20:56,170 --> 00:21:01,910 So, if it wasn't the plane that hit the Pentagon, what the hell was it? 302 00:21:02,170 --> 00:21:05,550 I think it's about time we start looking at other possibilities. 303 00:21:08,370 --> 00:21:13,310 Coming up, Jesse uncovers what really caused the damage to the Pentagon. 304 00:21:13,970 --> 00:21:16,590 Shocking accounts from ones who were there. 305 00:21:16,970 --> 00:21:18,890 To me, it sounded like a bomb. 306 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,700 I saw nothing that resembled an aircraft. 307 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:27,680 Then, what about those phone calls from the doomed flight? The bizarre, shocking 308 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,100 conspiracy theory. 309 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,100 He may have been duped by someone pretending to be his wife. 310 00:21:33,660 --> 00:21:36,720 My plane has been hijacked. What should I do? 311 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:43,720 And later, Jesse Ventura confronts a 9 -11 commissioner and demands the truth. 312 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,600 Why has all the tape of the plane hitting the Pentagon been confiscated, 313 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,600 national security? 314 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:51,640 I have no idea. 315 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,980 Conspiracy theories about the 9 -11 attack on the Pentagon exploded on the 316 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:10,980 anniversary. 317 00:22:11,150 --> 00:22:14,830 When a 9 -11 commissioner slipped up on national television. 318 00:22:16,730 --> 00:22:22,390 There were many times you were afraid, especially when I was standing in front 319 00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:27,710 of the Pentagon that night, seeing one of our fortresses pried open by a 320 00:22:27,710 --> 00:22:32,930 missile, an airplane, pried open by a missile. 321 00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:37,150 Pried open by a missile? 322 00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:39,810 Something exploded at the Pentagon. 323 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,760 But was it a jetliner? 324 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,420 The only bodies found at the scene were Pentagon employees. 325 00:22:46,660 --> 00:22:50,800 But there's never been evidence of passengers' bodies being recovered from 326 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,920 Pentagon wreckage. 327 00:22:53,640 --> 00:23:00,180 The Flight 77 victims were only identified later at Dover Air Force 328 00:23:00,180 --> 00:23:01,360 miles away. 329 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:10,290 Now. Jesse Ventura's team finds eyewitnesses to confirm expert opinion 330 00:23:10,290 --> 00:23:14,530 explosion. People who are outside and inside the Pentagon. 331 00:23:18,330 --> 00:23:21,730 I arrived at a D .C. diner to meet April Gallup. 332 00:23:22,410 --> 00:23:27,590 She was a U .S. Army specialist working inside the Pentagon the morning of 9 -11 333 00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:32,250 when something exploded 30 feet from her desk. 334 00:23:33,870 --> 00:23:35,170 And she wasn't alone. 335 00:23:35,530 --> 00:23:38,630 She brought her two -month -old baby to work. 336 00:23:38,970 --> 00:23:43,290 When I went to sit down at the computer, I put my son's stroller right beside 337 00:23:43,290 --> 00:23:47,590 me. As soon as I went to turn on the computer, boom. 338 00:23:49,450 --> 00:23:51,030 A massive explosion. 339 00:23:51,530 --> 00:23:54,890 And this was the plane hitting the Pentagon. 340 00:23:55,310 --> 00:23:58,750 To me, it sounded like a bomb. It sounded like a bomb. It sounded like a 341 00:23:59,970 --> 00:24:04,550 I was covered from here all the way down. People were saying, help me, save 342 00:24:04,650 --> 00:24:10,130 And so I low crawled out under my elbows and I reached over the debris that we 343 00:24:10,130 --> 00:24:14,910 were climbing over and I pulled up the baby by the onesie and put him over my 344 00:24:14,910 --> 00:24:18,390 shoulder. And we went out, came out of the gaping hole I passed out. 345 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:23,270 So you walked out the hole that the plane supposedly created? 346 00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:27,370 Did you at all see an airplane? 347 00:24:28,170 --> 00:24:30,890 I did. That's why it was really hard for me to believe. 348 00:24:34,620 --> 00:24:40,160 June found even more supporting evidence when she met news cameraman Bob Pugh 349 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,160 near the Capitol. 350 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,560 He started filming within five minutes of the explosion. 351 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,620 This will be the actual unedited video that I shot that morning. 352 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,940 What's happening here? 353 00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:56,000 This is the first frame I shot. This was about 100 yards from the impact site or 354 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,000 the site of the fire. 355 00:24:57,460 --> 00:24:58,880 Just to stop you a minute. 356 00:24:59,470 --> 00:25:03,310 Have you ever been to another plane crash site? I was at the Air Florida 357 00:25:03,310 --> 00:25:07,450 in 1980 when it hit the Talmud River when it took off from Washington 358 00:25:07,450 --> 00:25:08,450 Airport. 359 00:25:09,290 --> 00:25:11,350 And how did that differ from this? 360 00:25:11,570 --> 00:25:14,850 It was identifiable. I mean, the tail was sticking out of the water. 361 00:25:15,170 --> 00:25:16,170 There was debris. 362 00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:20,090 They actually recovered a lot of the victims still in their seats. 363 00:25:20,830 --> 00:25:23,210 But look how clean the lawn is. I know. 364 00:25:23,610 --> 00:25:29,090 There is no sign that a plane has been anywhere near this launch. I was looking 365 00:25:29,090 --> 00:25:34,550 for pieces, anything to identify what I might be looking at, and I saw nothing. 366 00:25:34,650 --> 00:25:38,870 No luggage, no wheels, no engines, nothing that resembled an aircraft. 367 00:25:41,310 --> 00:25:45,730 There is a picture of a hole, and it's basically the size of a two -car garage. 368 00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:49,530 That hole in the Pentagon was relatively small. 369 00:25:50,350 --> 00:25:53,130 Too small to be made by a 757. 370 00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:58,030 If it looked bigger, it's because of the fire and structure collapse that 371 00:25:58,030 --> 00:26:02,010 followed. I couldn't discern a mark of the wings as they came in. I can't 372 00:26:02,010 --> 00:26:06,130 logically make that fit with what they tell me happened here. 373 00:26:09,330 --> 00:26:11,990 April Gallup's story picks up in the hospital. 374 00:26:13,330 --> 00:26:18,070 April said that she and her son were recovering from their injuries when she 375 00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:18,999 a visit. 376 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,260 From the military brass. 377 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,680 And they asked you what you thought happened. 378 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,060 I said, well, I thought it was a bomb. 379 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,380 And they were like, no, it was this. 380 00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:32,660 Then they corrected you when you said it was a bomb. Then they informed you, no, 381 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,679 it was an airplane. 382 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,680 Exactly. 383 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,640 Have you testified before the 9 -11 Commission? 384 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,860 No, never been called, never been contacted. 385 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:45,960 And I don't know of any video that was taken earlier by anyone. 386 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,620 Since 9 -11, have you been threatened in any way? Have you been told to keep 387 00:26:53,620 --> 00:26:55,640 your mouth shut? Yes, I have. 388 00:26:56,340 --> 00:26:57,299 Who does that? 389 00:26:57,300 --> 00:26:58,620 That was my military leader. 390 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,940 Do you feel threatened today, too? 391 00:27:06,780 --> 00:27:09,020 Yes, I do. 392 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,240 And you know what? 393 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,800 I'm just going to go. 394 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:22,250 After all these years, April Gallup still fears the government is out to 395 00:27:22,250 --> 00:27:23,250 her. 396 00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:25,110 For good reason. 397 00:27:26,590 --> 00:27:32,970 She filed a lawsuit against the government, claiming Flight 77's black 398 00:27:32,970 --> 00:27:38,750 will indicate the jet passed over the Pentagon amid an explosion and fireball 399 00:27:38,750 --> 00:27:43,250 from a planted bomb, bombs and or missile. 400 00:27:44,970 --> 00:27:47,450 The FBI said the boxes were recovered. 401 00:27:48,130 --> 00:27:49,390 But get this. 402 00:27:49,650 --> 00:27:56,370 The government says their cockpit voice recorders were badly damaged, useless, 403 00:27:56,610 --> 00:27:58,390 convenient. 404 00:27:59,290 --> 00:28:02,030 April, be careful. 405 00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:10,110 This conspiracy was looking all too obvious. But there was one more loose 406 00:28:10,110 --> 00:28:11,110 clear up. 407 00:28:11,310 --> 00:28:16,050 Look, there was at least one phone call made from that jet while it was 408 00:28:16,050 --> 00:28:17,050 happening. 409 00:28:18,790 --> 00:28:24,670 Coming up, an amazing accusation, evidence that phone calls from the jet 410 00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:25,690 have been faked. 411 00:28:26,190 --> 00:28:30,030 This is called a morph. A morph is where it goes from one voice to the other 412 00:28:30,030 --> 00:28:32,310 voice. This song is urgent, all right. 413 00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:34,910 That's a monstrous motive. 414 00:28:35,130 --> 00:28:40,330 Was the attack planned as part of a Pentagon plot to cover up trillions of 415 00:28:40,330 --> 00:28:41,330 missing dollars? 416 00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:46,530 You're putting planes into the World Trade Center to send us off to war. 417 00:28:46,770 --> 00:28:51,270 Why wouldn't we add a little icing to the cake? We got some major troubles in 418 00:28:51,270 --> 00:28:53,450 the Pentagon that we got to account for. 419 00:28:54,320 --> 00:29:00,060 And later, the governor storms into the Pentagon and demands the truth from a 420 00:29:00,060 --> 00:29:01,820 member of the 9 -11 Commission. 421 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:07,080 I'm not sure if you just think the 9 -11 Commission was duped. Oh, no, I think 422 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,940 the 9 -11 Commission was duped. 423 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,960 To me, it sounded like a bomb. 424 00:29:22,830 --> 00:29:28,670 I just spoke with a lady named April Gallup. She worked right where this 425 00:29:28,670 --> 00:29:29,690 happened in the Pentagon. 426 00:29:31,070 --> 00:29:38,050 And she was there that day. She even walked out the damn hole that was 427 00:29:38,050 --> 00:29:39,050 by the plane. 428 00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:45,870 And she doesn't recall seeing one thing that indicated the plane had crashed 429 00:29:45,870 --> 00:29:50,630 there. Yet we're supposed to believe government people that weren't even 430 00:29:51,210 --> 00:29:55,770 Look, there was at least one phone call made from that jet while it was 431 00:29:55,770 --> 00:29:59,490 happening. There were passengers on that plane that had this experience. These 432 00:29:59,490 --> 00:30:02,950 are real people we're talking about, not just an abstraction, not just an idea. 433 00:30:04,890 --> 00:30:10,290 Flight 77 disappeared from radar for 28 minutes before the Pentagon was hit. 434 00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:15,590 The only evidence the jet was still airborne came from phone calls allegedly 435 00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:16,710 placed from inside. 436 00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:24,160 George W. Bush's solicitor general, Ted Olson, says he received two calls from 437 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,160 his wife, Barbara. 438 00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:34,800 But that story is about to be disputed, disproven, and exposed as a 439 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,820 cruel ploy. 440 00:30:36,020 --> 00:30:39,760 We have a problem with an impossible call. It didn't happen. 441 00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:45,980 Dr. A .K. Dudney speaks to investigator June Sarpong from Ontario, Canada. 442 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,820 He's a noted computer scientist. 443 00:30:49,060 --> 00:30:54,360 He conducted tests proving that cell phone calls could not have been made 444 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,360 the jet. 445 00:30:55,820 --> 00:31:00,560 It flew too fast and too high to connect with any cell towers. 446 00:31:01,420 --> 00:31:03,160 It couldn't have been cell phone calls. 447 00:31:04,090 --> 00:31:08,350 Within a few days of 9 -11, Olson changed his story to say that it was the 448 00:31:08,350 --> 00:31:09,289 of the seat phone. 449 00:31:09,290 --> 00:31:12,590 Were there even passenger seat phones on Flight 77? 450 00:31:13,050 --> 00:31:18,930 A meticulous researcher noticed on the American Airlines website that the 757 451 00:31:18,930 --> 00:31:22,630 equipment was not equipped with back of the seat or air phones, as they called 452 00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:26,310 them. And then later on, at the Masui trial in 2006... 453 00:31:26,730 --> 00:31:32,370 An FBI source reported to the court that, in fact, Ted Olson received no 454 00:31:32,370 --> 00:31:36,890 phone calls from his wife except possibly one in which the connection 455 00:31:36,890 --> 00:31:37,890 zero seconds. 456 00:31:39,370 --> 00:31:40,610 Zero seconds? 457 00:31:41,390 --> 00:31:44,030 That would mean no conversation at all. 458 00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:48,710 We have a pretty big contradiction because we've got Olson claiming that 459 00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:53,050 told him that there are Arab hijackers with box cutters on board. 460 00:31:53,270 --> 00:31:56,170 And we've got the FBI saying, no, that call didn't happen. 461 00:31:56,710 --> 00:32:02,110 Wow. Is this guy saying Ted Olson lied about his wife's last words? 462 00:32:02,330 --> 00:32:07,110 I prefer to believe that Olson is telling the truth, that he may have been 463 00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:09,770 by someone pretending to be his wife. 464 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,800 What kind of technology would be needed to fake a phone call? 465 00:32:15,620 --> 00:32:20,200 Better yet, how could a guy not know what his own wife sounds like? 466 00:32:21,780 --> 00:32:24,400 So you're a forensic scientist? 467 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,740 Yeah. Turns out, it's easy. 468 00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:32,880 Daniel was getting a first -hand demonstration from forensic audio 469 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,880 Kent Gibson. 470 00:32:58,019 --> 00:33:01,340 What should I do? 471 00:33:01,540 --> 00:33:02,540 A man or a woman? 472 00:33:02,820 --> 00:33:04,900 Man. Okay, let's try it. 473 00:33:05,260 --> 00:33:08,540 My plane has been hijacked. What should I do? 474 00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:10,420 Right now, is there a woman? 475 00:33:11,140 --> 00:33:13,920 My plane has been hijacked. What should I do? 476 00:33:14,980 --> 00:33:19,680 I've got another machine over here, which is a little different. This time, 477 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,220 guy took my voice. 478 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,920 And made it his. 479 00:33:23,580 --> 00:33:28,280 This is called a morph. A morph is where it goes from one voice to the other 480 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,700 voice. That's a morph from me to Jesse and Pat. This sounded urgent, all right. 481 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,180 But where do we start? 482 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,600 This sounded urgent, all right. But where do we start? 483 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:43,540 It's easy to see how they could take any voice and make it sound like Olsen's 484 00:33:43,540 --> 00:33:46,180 wife. This sounded urgent, all right. 485 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,600 But where do we start? 486 00:33:49,390 --> 00:33:54,010 There's no question that there are some serious, serious problems with the 487 00:33:54,010 --> 00:33:58,230 interpretation given to the events of 9 -11 by the White House. 488 00:33:58,650 --> 00:34:03,010 So if it wasn't al -Qaeda terrorists who hit the Pentagon, who did? 489 00:34:03,370 --> 00:34:04,890 And what was the motive? 490 00:34:05,630 --> 00:34:08,850 I'd found it was more than a missile, more than a bomb. 491 00:34:09,330 --> 00:34:13,370 There was real speculation that this was an inside job. 492 00:34:14,130 --> 00:34:17,770 Okay, so what reason did you guys come up with for the Pentagon to attack its 493 00:34:17,770 --> 00:34:18,678 own headquarters? 494 00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,719 Well, it's simple. If you believe the theory that the Bush administration 495 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,179 a pretext to go to war in Iraq. 496 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:30,040 Now, let's take it a step further. The day before 9 -11, on the 10th of 497 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:35,800 September, Donald Rumsfeld holds a press conference and talks about they can't 498 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:41,139 account for $2 .3 trillion of Pentagon expenses. 499 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:44,840 According to some estimates, we cannot track $2 .3 trillion. 500 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:51,380 trillion in transactions. And amazingly, the exact place that quote plane hit 501 00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:57,340 was where all the computers and data were stored at for what Rumsfeld talked 502 00:34:57,340 --> 00:35:02,840 about. Yeah, it's unthinkable until you think about it. More than records were 503 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,220 lost in the impact area. 504 00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:08,180 One army office lost 34 of its 65 employees. 505 00:35:08,660 --> 00:35:11,680 The office was called Resource Services Washington. 506 00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:14,040 The victims were at their deaths. 507 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,640 Most were civilians, bookkeepers, accountants, budget analysts, the folks 508 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,880 know most about a cover -up and who was stealing the money. 509 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,280 What does Rumsfeld have to say about that? Nothing. We've tried to contact 510 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,240 office on multiple occasions, and we get no answer. 511 00:35:30,740 --> 00:35:35,660 I've served in the military. There would be one room that they would keep all 512 00:35:35,660 --> 00:35:38,260 this stuff. There would be multiple dots in there that need to be connected. 513 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,780 And I can connect them. 514 00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:43,560 It's an extension of the original law. 515 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,920 Getting two for one. 516 00:35:46,460 --> 00:35:52,000 You're putting planes into the World Trade Center to send us off to war. Wait 517 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,880 minute. Let me finish. To send us off to war on top of it. Why wouldn't we add a 518 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:03,240 little icing to the cake? We got some major troubles in the Pentagon. If we 519 00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:08,220 a missile in there and blow it up, no one will ever talk about that September 520 00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:11,660 10th press conference again. And am I not right on that? 521 00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:16,910 It was time to visit the Pentagon and hit the government with the evidence. 522 00:36:18,730 --> 00:36:24,630 Coming up, the governor marches into the Pentagon and confronts a member of the 523 00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:25,630 9 -11 Commission. 524 00:36:26,090 --> 00:36:32,550 The day before 9 -11, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld reports that 525 00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:35,390 have simply lost $2 .3 trillion. 526 00:36:35,950 --> 00:36:38,290 You recall that, the day before 9 -11? 527 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,480 Was the 9 -11 attack on the Pentagon an inside job? 528 00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:59,880 With Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld 529 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:00,880 in the conspiracy, 530 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:07,320 Jesse Ventura charges into the U .S. Defense Headquarters to demand the 531 00:37:11,460 --> 00:37:13,640 I made my way through security. 532 00:37:13,980 --> 00:37:16,680 I met the Defense Department escorts. 533 00:37:17,230 --> 00:37:19,790 trying to lead me to a PR flak. 534 00:37:20,510 --> 00:37:21,510 Not interested. 535 00:37:21,690 --> 00:37:23,890 I wanted to see the impact site. 536 00:37:25,310 --> 00:37:30,370 This is where the records for that missing $2 .3 trillion were kept. 537 00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:34,050 This is where all the financial people were killed. 538 00:37:37,450 --> 00:37:41,190 This is the angle, right, where the plane allegedly came in at. 539 00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:45,150 There was a security camera in the parking lot, just to the right. There 540 00:37:45,150 --> 00:37:46,150 security camera. 541 00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:49,840 On the far end of the building that caught the aircraft. 542 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,160 Is he kidding me? 543 00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:54,880 This guy's just spouting 9 -11 commission script. 544 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,640 The only video they've released doesn't show a jet at all. 545 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:06,560 I still question why we can't see all the security cameras. I don't understand 546 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,080 why we're not allowed to see them. 547 00:38:09,660 --> 00:38:12,180 A jet, a missile, a bomb. 548 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,760 All the evidence has been swept away and papered over. 549 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,100 I needed to talk to a member of the 9 -11 Commission, find out why these 550 00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:24,640 questions never made it to the official 9 -11 report. 551 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,660 Janice Kephart was commission counsel. 552 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,780 Her name's on the report. 553 00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:32,800 Let her defend it. 554 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:40,500 One thing that troubled me greatly was the fact that the day before 9 -11, 555 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,680 Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has a press conference where he reports 556 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,040 that they have simply lost $2 .3 trillion. 557 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,380 They don't have receipts for it. They don't know where it went. 558 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,660 Do you recall that the day before 9 -11? 559 00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:56,740 Well, if you don't, that's what happened. 560 00:38:57,240 --> 00:39:02,340 According to some estimates, we cannot track $2 .3 trillion in transactions. 561 00:39:02,740 --> 00:39:07,660 And how ironic that the exact place that was struck in the Pentagon. 562 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,700 was where all those records were supposedly had to be. 563 00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:13,140 Now all destroyed. 564 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,920 So I guess the 2 .3 trillion, we as taxpayers just say, c 'est la vie. 565 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,320 Now isn't that a bit much? 566 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,040 I have no idea. 567 00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:29,800 Why has all the tape of the plane hitting the Pentagon been confiscated, 568 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,460 national security, and we're not allowed to view the plane hitting the Pentagon? 569 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,420 And don't come back with me and say, but they did. 570 00:39:36,910 --> 00:39:39,490 You saw that little flash of five frames. 571 00:39:42,190 --> 00:39:43,630 I have no idea. 572 00:39:44,770 --> 00:39:49,570 Well, you know, the government... It's very Warren commission -ish. The 573 00:39:49,570 --> 00:39:54,890 government has a tremendous propensity for secrecy. And the Defense Department 574 00:39:54,890 --> 00:39:57,610 and others do as well. 575 00:39:58,110 --> 00:39:59,430 You believe that? 576 00:39:59,650 --> 00:40:01,230 The lawyer admits. 577 00:40:01,550 --> 00:40:04,710 Our government's still hiding the truth from you and me. 578 00:40:05,690 --> 00:40:07,330 There was no rubble outside. 579 00:40:08,190 --> 00:40:10,050 All there was was a hole. 580 00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:15,470 What happened to where the wings hit? Ask that question to our 9 -11 581 00:40:15,470 --> 00:40:20,370 staffer, who was the only survivor from that room who made it out. 582 00:40:20,590 --> 00:40:26,250 I did talk to April Gallup, who was actually inside the room in the 583 00:40:26,410 --> 00:40:32,050 and she looked me in the eye and told me unequivocally, I saw nothing that 584 00:40:32,050 --> 00:40:34,050 indicated a plane hit the Pentagon. 585 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,600 I felt that a bomb had exploded. 586 00:40:38,740 --> 00:40:41,860 Their witnesses could always have different versions of different things. 587 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,760 Okay, so, Governor, you've asked me a lot of questions that indicate that you 588 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,620 not really believe that 9 -11 happened the way it did. So what exactly is your 589 00:40:52,620 --> 00:40:55,600 bottom line and where are you going with this? My bottom line is the truth. 590 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,100 I mean, I'm not sure if you just think the 9 -11 Commission was duped or if you 591 00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:05,580 think 9 -11 Commission was part of the problem. Oh, no, I think the 9 -11 592 00:41:05,580 --> 00:41:09,060 Commission was duped. I don't think you got all the information. 593 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,160 I think information was withheld from you all, much the same as the Warren 594 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,440 Commission and the murder of John Kennedy. 595 00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:20,560 Tons of information was withheld. 596 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,820 And that's what it gets down to, the 9 -11 Commission itself. 597 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:32,680 Janice Kephart told me it was under a time crunch, underfunded, not allowed to 598 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:38,460 include dissenting opinions, and got no cooperation from the White House. 599 00:41:38,740 --> 00:41:42,840 We only had to do subpoenas in a couple different areas. Subpoenas would be 600 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,840 required in this investigation. 601 00:41:45,220 --> 00:41:49,560 Why would someone in government not want to come and tell you what they know? 602 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,740 When 3 ,000 people were murdered that day. 603 00:41:52,940 --> 00:41:56,900 Because it's always about protection of the institution in the end. Wow. 604 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,720 That's really eye -opening for me as an American citizen to learn that 605 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:06,720 protecting the institution is more important than learning the truth. 606 00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:13,440 It'll take more than a 400 -page report to put these conspiracy theories to 607 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,440 rest. 608 00:42:14,580 --> 00:42:16,120 And you know what's worse? 609 00:42:16,420 --> 00:42:18,380 The people behind the conspiracy. 610 00:42:19,210 --> 00:42:20,390 Behind the cover -up. 611 00:42:20,590 --> 00:42:22,490 They're still running our government. 612 00:42:23,550 --> 00:42:24,570 Still lying. 613 00:42:24,850 --> 00:42:26,710 Still hiding the truth. 614 00:42:30,590 --> 00:42:32,870 Was it a missile that hit the Pentagon? 615 00:42:33,210 --> 00:42:34,350 Was it a bomb? 616 00:42:34,610 --> 00:42:38,750 Or was it what they told us? It's been almost ten years. 617 00:42:39,130 --> 00:42:43,050 And I wouldn't be asking these questions if the government would play straight 618 00:42:43,050 --> 00:42:47,730 with us. If they have the footage from all those surveillance cameras. 619 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:55,140 Let us see it. If there was no stand down order, prove it. And don't question 620 00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:57,900 patriotism because I'm looking for answers. 621 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:04,520 One thing I've learned, if you don't hold their feet to the fire, everybody 622 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,040 burned. I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is Conspiracy Theory.